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                    <title>Guest on Velvet Euro Mount</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I was brought a skull to mount about 2 days ago I have never done a euro mount in velvet before. I tried doing a injection but it does seems to be flowing under the velvet like it should. My question is its it to late to cure the velvet an leave it on there or should I still be able to cure it. It wasnt froze when I got the deer has been around 4 days since it was shot </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2022 02:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Kingfraser1 on Ram skull with horns </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I'm ready to sell this ram skull with horns, if interested kindly pm me for more info.</p>
<p>Thanks<img data-upload="1" data-width="400" data-height="400" title="277318343_349067917257936_3716360221694403723_n.jpg" alt="277318343_349067917257936_3716360221694403723_n.jpg" src="https://taxidermytalk.com/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/kingfraser1/2022/03/277318343_349067917257936_3716360221694403723_n.jpg" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2022 13:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>WhitetailDeer123 on Whitetail Euro Mount Help???</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I have an 8 month old deer skull that I was planning on doing a european mount with. The problem is that the skin was left on. Is it too late to try and remove the skin? </p>
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<p>Thanks </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2021 03:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Deadshot on How to Whiten an old Elk Skull</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hey, thank you very much for that info! I'll have to see if I can get around to touching up that skull this fall, although with school starting again now who knows what will happen. <br />
Once again, thanks for taking the time to answer my questions. That info is definitely very helpful.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2018 18:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>JAFL on How to Whiten an old Elk Skull</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hi, You did things right by maceration then clean up, The peroxide is about the only safe way  to whiten up the skull but it can't be successful until the fat has been removed....the brown areas are fat and oils actually inside the elks bone. It is a simple process to remove but it may take a couple of months to get it all out.....You will need a (1) bucket that the entire head will fit in including the top of the skull. (2)one submersible aquarium heater..It doesn't have to be an expensive one (3) a high grade dish detergent such as Dawn.</p>
<p>Put the head in the bucket(most use 5 gallon plastic buckets but from what I see that may not be big enough.<img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Laugh" alt="Laugh" src="https://taxidermytalk.com/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" />) You might have to improvise and it won't hurt if the horn bases are submersed.</p>
<p>Next, add approximately 2 to 3 ozs detergent..needs to feel slick and make bubbles... Now find a place you can plug your heater turn it to as high as it will go.. If you can insulate the container that will help keep the temp at around 99 to 104. I just use a big plastic bag to keep the water from evaporating and found fiberglass insulation works well but so will a lot of things...if you don't have that available look around and improvise again!</p>
<p>You need to change this water every few days to keep it clean and promote the fats to migrate out of the bone...you also need to use a sieve to catch any possible teeth that may come loose. Save them to replant after the skull is clean...Continue the water changes until there is no more oil and the water looks clean after a week or so...every skull is different so time wise it will take what it takes.</p>
<p>After your skull is grease free you can then whiten with peroxide...most people will bag a skull and fill the bag full of peroxide and (your bucket comes in use again) Use your 3% or some will go to a beauty supply store and get a stronger peroxide..The the horns will bleach if you get the peroxide on them so be care full about not allowing that to happen. To whiten the top of the skull use paper towels or a cloth cover that can be wet with the peroxide. Allow the skull soak for a couple of days then check the look...if it looks good then take it out and put it in the sun that will finish the whitening.... Have fun (if you do end up bleaching the horns they can be fixed! let us know how things progress</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2018 20:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>JAFL on Undestructable 'bugs'</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I hope you solved your problem but here is what happened, your heads probably were not entirely cleaned of tissue and one of the Dermestid beetle types found a new home...You may actually have killed the critters in the heads you treated but I suspect the beetles may have made your area their area...These guys have the ability of finding food..if you have dog food, cat food or even insects shells in crawl spaces they can eek out a living..so you may still have a problem which is getting rid of any remaining bugs and making sure there is no high protein feed available.</p>
<p>If you have questions ask, I have been very busy but I'll check back  soon.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2018 19:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Deadshot on How to Whiten an old Elk Skull</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hi everyone,</p>
<p>I'm a young hunter and a couple of years ago I downed a 6x6 bull elk. Not having tons of free time, I skinned the skull and then set it into a five-gallon pail of water to soak for a while. A couple months later a found the time to pressure wash it off. I got most of the fat and meat off in this fashion and was even able to clean out the brain cavity fairly well. but then winter hit and along with winter came high school so I tossed the skull up into our barn loft and there it sat until this year. I decided to tackle the skull this summer and try to get it whitened up so it would nice to hang on a wall. I'm not in a financial position to pay for a European mount, so I asked around and was told to pour peroxide over the skull over and over again. This seems to be working alright, as the skull has cleaned up a bit in the last couple days, but the grooves in the skull remain brown and there is a large patch between the antlers and just down the nose a little bit that remains brown and I can't get it to whiten at all. I'm using three percent peroxide, as that was the strongest I could find in town. I'm open to any tips on how to clean it up. </p>
<p>Thanks, </p>
<p>Deadshot<img data-upload="1" data-width="1446" data-height="1936" title="image1.JPG" alt="image1.JPG" src="https://taxidermytalk.com/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/deadshot/2018/06/image1.JPG" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="1446" data-height="1936" title="image2.JPG" alt="image2.JPG" src="https://taxidermytalk.com/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/deadshot/2018/06/image2.JPG" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2018 16:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>RGDelmarsh on Undestructable 'bugs'</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I have ten cow skulls that I purchased and they began to have piles of 'dust' accumulate underneath them. I attached zip lock bags to them and found these skulls have tiny worm like things coming out of them and occasionally a small black bug. The worm things are about 1/4" long. The skulls themselves are clean of any meat or fur. I've tried to freeze the skulls (as long as two weeks) and I just took all of them to a local pest control service who put them in a vault and gassed them for three days. $200 later and soon after I got them home, the worm appeared again. I'm assuming they are some sort of larvae, but I don't know how to get rid of them. I thought about boiling them, but I don't know exactly how I would do that due to their size. I'd appreciate any suggestions. Thank you. And in case you haven't figured it out yet, I'm not a taxidermist. I'm an artist and use skulls in my art.<img data-upload="1" data-width="564" data-height="591" title="Bug.jpg" alt="Bug.jpg" src="https://taxidermytalk.com/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/rgdelmarsh/2018/06/Bug.jpg" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2018 00:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TafiNami on Cleaning inside the middle of a mole skull</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p><em>Use</em> a <em>steamer</em> only for what it is designed to do. Always wear shoes when operating any kind of <a href="http://lifeogy.com/best-handheld-steamer/" target="_blank">electrical steaming device</a>. Only buy certified electrical appliances. <em>Use</em> only on surfaces that are sealed and can take high heat and moisture. Be aware of temperature variations that could be great.. And you can use <a href="http://pressurewasherify.com/blog/best-baby-soap/" rel="noopener" target="_blank">baby soap for this kind</a> of cleaning work</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2018 11:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TafiNami on Dermestid beatle care ?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>You won't want to <em>use</em> it in a tiny backyard or patio area, but if you have a large outdoor space that's plagued with mosquitoes a heavy-duty <a href="http://hoofia.com/best-stinger-bug-zapper/" target="_blank">electronic string <em>insect japper </em></a>like this Flowtron unit might be worth considering. It promises to kill mosquitos and other flying insects over a half-acre area,</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2018 11:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>GreenCouncilIIOP on Skull cleaning using Mealworms</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>We’re raising money to be able to carry out an experiment to find out if skulls and skeletons can be cleaned using mealworms instead of alternatives like dermestid beetles and chemicals. Mealworm cleaning could prove to be a safer and more natural alternative to other ways of skeleton cleaning. You can read everything related to our experiment on the link below!</p>
<p>We only need $40 more dollars of our $600 goal! You can donate anything you want to our experiment, even $1 would be helpful! </p>
<p><a href="https://experiment.com/greencouncil " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://experiment.com/greencouncil </a></p>
<p>we will also be publishing our findings to that website if you want to be up to date with our research! </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2017 22:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TANGLEWOOD on Hallmarks of an Exceptional European/Skull Mount</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Improperly done skulls can get yellow or discolored grease spots.</p>
<p>It can have little bits of dried tissue that was left on the bone and can have a smell. </p>
<p>Teeth glued into improper places or depths and missing teeth.</p>
<p>Missing nasal bones and sinus bones. Some people produce quality euros that the sinus bones were removed, however, I am partial to leaving them in.</p>
<p>There was a time that did a lot of euros and getting the grease out was the biggest challenge and keeping the sinus bones intact can be a pain.</p>
<p>I had a company that does skulls only inspect some of my skulls and got a thumbs up, so I started offering them to customers.</p>
<p>Somethings in taxidermy are unpleasant, however, euros, for me, were most unpleasant from start to finish.</p>
<p>At first I did leaving them in a cage or plastic bag, not great.</p>
<p>Boiling, hard to keep the sinus bones in.</p>
<p>Beetles are great if you have room a means to be a bug farmer.</p>
<p>Maceration was my chosen way. </p>
<p>Degreasing is something that can be tread of it's own. Super important!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2017 15:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>wooden on Hallmarks of an Exceptional European/Skull Mount</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>So there are lots of articles and discussions about what to look for when evaluating the quality of a taxidermist's work for something like a shoulder-mount. I feel like I know the <strong>basics</strong> of what to look for there - and can spot a mediocre/sloppy mount pretty easily. I'm no expert, but things like no whiskers, poor job/positioning of the ears, the nose, and/or the aftermath of a lousy job tanning to name a few are a turn-off for me. </p>
<p>To me, the value that a quality taxidermist brings to the table goes far beyond doing the dirty work, taking the time to do it, and having invested in the equipment - he/she brings my trophy to life in a way that I simply could not - short of pursuing taxidermy as a career.</p>
<p>But I haven't been able to find much on european mounts. Are they just THAT simple? What differentiates an exceptional european or skull mount from a mediocre one? I see a lot of professional taxidermists doing them, so, what differentiates an outstanding european/skull mount versus a so-so one?</p>
<p>Or is it simply that the taxidermist deals with things like brains, flesh, offensive smells, insects, chemicals, time, etc. - that most customers (or their wives) would rather not deal with?</p>
<p>For the purposes of this discussion I would like to keep it limited to things that pertain to the skull/antlers on a "traditional" euro/skull mount, and not take into consideration the less permanent/more optional things like plaques, hardware, custom-painting, etc.</p>
<p><strong>What will a good mount have that a lesser mount will not? </strong></p>
<p><strong>What are the telltale signs of an obvious DIY/hack job?</strong></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2017 19:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Isaiah.1234 on Degreasing whitetail skull with ammonia? </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I had a quick question about soaking a deer skull in ammonia to degrease? Would it be okay to use ammonia? Didn't know if it would hurt the bone of the skull or not. Any help would be appreciated </p>
<p>thanks </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2016 23:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>D.Price on Bad Smelling Buffalo Skull</title>
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<p><strong>Reckless said </strong><br />
Hi guys, I have received my last Asian Water Buffalo Skull mount only to find that both the skull and horns have not been treated fully and both are emitting a foul smell. I currently have them separate and outside in the sun. Is there anything I can do to speed up the process. The outfitter has recently gone out of business and is not taking calls.</p>
<p> thanks.  </p>
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<p>Soak everything in a commercial degreaser and water solution for several days. Next cover the skull and coat the inside of the horn sheaths in powdered borax and set them to the side and the smell will slowly begin to dissipate. Add the borax while still wet so it will stick to the parts and begin to absorb the odor.</p>
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<p>DP</p>
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