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Finding Specific forms or being able to alter them for mounts?
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So i had this idea that i want to do a coyote as a rug, but have it snarling… so showing teeth, but the mouth isnt completely open.. But it seems like the forms on a few sites are closed mouth or wide open, from what i can tell… i looked on the few big name taxidermy suppliers and they all have the same molds..

Is there a way to manipulate these forms to fit a customers request? If so how easy or pain in the rear is it.

I have never done any taxidermy yet, so this is just something ive been wondering for a while, on altering mounts in general. If i do this as a part time profession, i would want to make sure that the customer can have their trophy the exact way they want it… 

question two on the rugs, i see that they always have some sort of fabric that outlines the animal. Is this something that is required? In my personal opinion, i dont like the look of it, i would rather just have the animal, with no fabric outline/boarder on my own rugs. If it is needed, whats the reasoning behind it?

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So i had this idea that i want to do a coyote as a rug, but have it snarling… so showing teeth, but the mouth isnt completely open.. But it seems like the forms on a few sites are closed mouth or wide open, from what i can tell… i looked on the few big name taxidermy suppliers and they all have the same molds..

Is there a way to manipulate these forms to fit a customers request? If so how easy or pain in the rear is it.

I have never done any taxidermy yet, so this is just something ive been wondering for a while, on altering mounts in general. If i do this as a part time profession, i would want to make sure that the customer can have their trophy the exact way they want it… 

question two on the rugs, i see that they always have some sort of fabric that outlines the animal. Is this something that is required? In my personal opinion, i dont like the look of it, i would rather just have the animal, with no fabric outline/boarder on my own rugs. If it is needed, whats the reasoning behind it?

 

 Yes, you can manipulate the forms to your customers specifications. If you look at the wolf we just completed and posted in this section, you will notice the mouth is slightly open. When we received the form, the mouth was closed. It is a common practice to alter forms in this manner.

The felt border on rugs gives them a finished look, and can help to protect the leather to some extent.It also helps to hold the batting in place that makes it a ” rug”. You do not have to have this border if you do not want. It is what we would call a ” wall hanger” or simply a dry tanned hide.

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how easy is it to work the mount the way you want it?

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It’s called form modification, and it is common practice. It takes practice and understanding of animal anatomy to do correctly. With the right training it is not terribly difficult to get right.

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Thank you for your time. Im glad to know that its not just the factory molds styles i would be stuck with. 

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instead of starting a new post, im just gonna ask on here and hope someone comes back to reply…. lol

 

For my coon skin that im gonna do, should i shave the fur? I saw a video of a big company that did that to beaver- to get to the soft down coat or whatever… Do they do that for every fur they get. if nto what ones to do that and can i jsut take a human clippers with a guard on it or should i not?

 

Again this is for me to do it at home, not sending it out… for a small project.  

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If you shave it down, you will be getting rid of the guard hairs and basically ruin the mount. The reason they shave down fur is for coats, etc , not ever for taxidermy. The HIDE is shaved down on taxidermy mounts for better stretch and to avoid shrinkage or movement when drying.

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Okay. well im not actually going to mount this hide.. I plan on actually making it into a display pillow… I never planned on going into taxidermy when i actually got the coon, i was more going for trapping, and selling the furs, but then i was watching a guy do a pheasant, and i started doing the research.. so the fur and the actually hide isnt really great..

 

 I was gonna ask if that would be okay… because people say to freeze it after you tan it or mount it right away… why does everyone say to mount right away or freeze it? If its tanned its okay to not do anything else with it right?  Like i said, i dont plan on mounting this on an actually mount or anything. 

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Well then you could shave it down all you want.

What you are looking for is a dry tan or garment tan. Trying to do this yourself is going to be difficult. I always send out dry tanning. The only tanning we do in house here is wet tanning….and most taxidermists who do tanning themselves will do them as wet tans. I guess there are some trapper tans out there if you want to make your own pillow, but that is kind of out of the range of taxidermy. Most taxidermists are not going to be taking in furs for making pillows for people.

 

If it is dry tanned and you wanted to mount it, you could store it for awhile in the dry tan state, but it should be soaked back up and froze for long periods of storage( like all of my personal mounts lol) . Wet tanned items should be froze if not mounted right away.

 

This probably makes no sense to you at all at this point, but keep researching and it eventually will !

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oh yea, that went all over my head.. I didnt realize there were wet and dry…… O_o

What makes no sense even more, is that why is it ok to wet tan and mount it, vrs making a pillow. Ive been looking at most the tanning, and didnt see much about wet vrs dry on here at least.. i’ll do a bit more outside this site maybe.

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Taxidermy tans are not designed for making pillows— it will not dry flexible or pliable for making a pillow.

I have never made a pillow, but I can tell you one coon is going to make you a very small pillow.

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Taxidermy tans are not designed for making pillows— it will not dry flexible or pliable for making a pillow.

I have never made a pillow, but I can tell you one coon is going to make you a very small pillow.

tee hee. thats why it would be just for show. Not looking to get to fancy over here. So i should look into a different tan… O_o not sure what im gonna get then. 

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